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How old is the Earth?
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Millions and Millions of years old 94%  94%  [ 15 ]
Roughly 10,000 years old 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
If a tree falls and no-one is around, does it make a sound? (perhaps the Earth is just a figment of our imagination). 6%  6%  [ 1 ]
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:51 pm 
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I heard something on the radio this weekend that made me think.
Apparently Presidential Candidate Rick Perry has stated that he thinks that the Earth is only 10,000 years old. So, I wondered what the percentage of people agree. I know I've brought this topic up before, but I never ran a poll.
I'm most curious to know this based on the fact that this forum supposedly has more technical people than "touchy feely" people (Politicians).
Let me know your thoughts.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:22 pm 
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I've known quite a few technical people who are "New Earthers". Personally I'm going with science.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:25 pm 
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I like the third option best - and my version of it:

"If a man speaks in the forest where no woman can hear, is he still wrong?"

( I have the T-shirt :D )

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:28 pm 
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Anyone who thinks the Earth is a few thousand years old is clearly wrong. Generally this comes from a literal reading of the bible where they peg creation at 6000 to 10,000 years ago.

I don't know if a god created everything but he/she/it didn't do it a few thousand years ago unless we're the subject of a not so funny joke. In which case we can't trust anything we see, hear, smell, and feel. And if that's the case, we have no choice but to proceed as is.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:24 pm 
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Technically the Earth and the Moon have been dated to be 4.5 million years old...UNLESS OF COURSE YOU DON'T THINK WE LANDED ON THE MOON...and because they found both to be merely the same age this hold more validity IMHO.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/enviro ... ne-age.htm
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Based on the analysis of these samples, scientists estimate that the Earth itself is about 4.5 billion years old. In addition, the oldest known moon rocks are 4.5 billion years old. Since the moon and the Earth probably formed at the same time, this supports the current idea of the Earth's age.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiometric_dating

10,000 years really? ...maybe there confusing the fact (most like today's form of) humans have been around that long? ...homo sapiens are dated back to 3.2 million yrs.

I'm a firm believer in Science...and until someone can theorize otherwise I'll chalk this theory out with Noah's Ark!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:04 pm 
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It is my understanding that our form of humans has been around about 10,000 years and the earth, about 4.5 billion. Any politician that would suggest 10K years proves why [good] education is important and should go get one.


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iDS! wrote:

10,000 years really? ...maybe there confusing the fact (most like today's form of) humans have been around that long?


No, many believe the Earth is only thousands of years old:

http://www.answersingenesis.org/article ... t-millions

http://www.answersingenesis.org/article ... -the-bible (Flintstones, meet the Flintstones)

Of course they use interpenetration of words from the Bible to "prove" their theories. It's all hinged on the fact that the word "day" is used through out bible to mean 24 hours. So why would Genesis be different. It has no science behind it at all.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:18 pm 
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Where's the poll option: "I'm here for cookies"?


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:37 pm 
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I dare any creationist to watch all of potholer54's videos, and cling to the claim that the earth is only 10,000 years old.



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:43 pm 
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Holy crap Sean, we're actually agreeing on something! :)


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:56 pm 
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Jerry Payton wrote:
Holy crap Sean, we're actually agreeing on something! :)


The first time is hard. You'll start agreeing with me more and more now. ;)

Now to complicate things. I firmly believe that both evolution and creationism can co-exist. I believe that Genesis is merely an allegory.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:26 am 
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Actually I sort of viewed it that you were agreeing with my viewpoint! :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 5:54 am 
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The Earth is probably as old as the rest of the universe. If we believe what our science is telling us now that would make it billions of years old. The Bible doesn't tell us how old the Earth is. It does talk about Earth "ages" but not about the overall age of the Earth. I'm guessing it's is very old. :beer:


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SeanDotson wrote:
[.... I firmly believe that both evolution and creationism can co-exist. I believe that Genesis is merely an allegory.
and here is how it works:
http://www.neatorama.com/2008/06/17/thi ... ent-model/


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cbliss wrote:
SeanDotson wrote:
[.... I firmly believe that both evolution and creationism can co-exist. I believe that Genesis is merely an allegory.
and here is how it works:
http://www.neatorama.com/2008/06/17/thi ... ent-model/


Actually I take it a bit different. There was no "Adam & Eve". A higher power created the planet and put a clock into motion. That clock is called evolution. That article alludes to a famous theory called the "Nod Problem". According to Genesis Cain & Seth's wives came from the land of Nod. Where did these people come from since God only created 2 people who had 3 kids (one of which is dead).

Even in the models on the page you posted... for these "wives" to be able to mate with Seth & Cain they would have to of evolved enough to be essentially homo sapiens. The explanation just gets too complicated at that point.

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