Don't seem to have this issue with other app's and not sure if we have something set wrong in Inventor 2013 Professional. When in sketch mode it seems that Inventor does not have any tolerance for mouse movement when clicking points. It's pretty obvious that it doesn't accept the click until the RMB is fully up and may actually have some lag.

Anyone that flies through designs will click and slide over to the next point to click and with Inventor on many, many, MANY occasions the mouse will just slightly drag off the desired position before it snaps the location in place. And yes, locate tolerance is already set to 10 (the max). Using a Logitech Performance MX high end mouse but had same issue with previous mouse. Don't have this issue at all with AutoCAD or other graphic app's, but Inventor is notorious for "missing" the desired click location. Feel like we have to hold the mouse perfectly still, click the RMB and then sit there for a moment to make sure it really picked where we wanted. Kind of like if you put speed bumps every 100-feet around Daytona

Any settings we can change to help this?
Thanks in advance.

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If you are using a 3DConnexion device as well - be sure to Calibrate (I do this on a daily basis).

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I do have a SpacePilot along with my mouse but would the SpacePilot have any bearing on the mouse function, especially click selection? I'd dump the SpacePilot in a second if it would stop the mouse click lag

Also I said RMB when really it's the left button. Oops.

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Spacemouse calibration problems can causes EVERYTHING to lag. It brought a laptop to it's knees during one of my presentations at AU a few years back.

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Calibrated and didn't seem to do a thing so I decided to do a comparison. In AutoCAD 2013 I can draw and as long as the osnap icon is displayed I can be WAAAAY away from the end of a line (or whatever), click and slide mouse as FAST as I can and the line snaps right to the proper location. Actually can't make it miss. I have my snap selection box set on the small side of average and can have my mouse pointer a good 1/8" away from where I want and it snaps perfectly.

In Inventor I can draw in a sketch mode and if I don't PAUSE totally still and let the mouse button fully released and settle before I move it either snaps just off the desired spot or snaps to the point but starts an arc draw. I have the Locate Tolerance set to the max of 10 and I can't be more then ~1/32" away from a location to have it snap to it. In the scheme of things unless you have your mouse set to a level that's 1:1 with the screen pointer movement (for me that would be a 24" mouse pad) you can't even blink or you're off the mark.

This is like framing a house but you can't have your hammer more then 1" off the head of the nail or you'll miss, not very efficient.

UPDATE: the dimensions I listed above were measured on the physical screen of my workstation itself, not dimensional moves on the drawing. Just FYI.

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A friend had a similar problem. It was like that in Inventor and AutoCAD. Turned out to be a virus or spyware.

No admin rights, most websites locked down and limited internet access, tight as h3ll Sophos, highly doubtful. And virus or spyware that only affects Inventor and no other application?

So does this imply that everyone else can click slightly away from an Inventor snap point and instantly move the mouse before your left mouse button has settled and it still snaps to the endpoint and not off the endpoint or start the arc command... it acts like AutoCAD's snaps??? Also, been doing this for the last several versions.

Any chance it's Inventor performance related? Like yesterday I had split my Inventor window to view two drawings simultaniously and when I would zoom in or out on one drawing the views would disappear, then reappear, then disappear, then it would be visible and I'd snap a dimension to one point and the view would vanish until I zoomed in or out a little. Just thinking if Inventor is draining my system resources a lot then it could have that affect on the mouse where as other app's that did not cause such a drain wouldn't do it.

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My system from Hardware Diagnostics:
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This Direct3D graphics driver is Microsoft WHQL certified
Graphics Hardware Description:
NVIDIA Quadro 5000

AIRViz Device Manager \ VirtualDeviceDx11
Feature Level 5_0
Performance Mode
Hardware Renderer
Graphics driver file nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um is version 8.17.12.7589
Current optimization settings are not known
The display is using 32-bit color

Inventor Version:
Build: 176, Release: 2013 SP1.1 - Date: Tue 10/03/2012
64-Bit Edition - 8192.00 GB

System Information:

Operating System: 64-bit Microsoft Windows 7 Enterprise (Build 7601) Service Pack 1
Language: English
System Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
System Model: Precision WorkStation T5500
BIOS: Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A09
Processor: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X5690 @ 3.47GHz (1 processor, 6 cores, Hyperthreading enabled)
System Memory: 11.998 GB RAM

Graphics Device Information:

Renderer: HAL
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip Type: Quadro 5000
DAC Type: Integrated RAMDAC
Graphics HW Memory: 2.464 GB
Display Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60 Hz)

Graphics driver file: nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um
Driver file version: 8.17.12.7589
Driver Date: 5 August 2011 0:00:00 UTC (Coordinated Universal Time)

Direct3D Graphics Device Information:

Adapter Description: NVIDIA Quadro 5000
Vendor ID string: 0x000010de
Device ID string: 0x000006d9
VendorID: 10de
DeviceID: 6d9
SubSystemID: 77010de
Revision: a3

Direct3D 10 / DXGI System Information:

Dedicated Video Memory: 2.464 GB
Dedicated System Memory: 0 MB
Shared System Memory: 5.749 GB

DxDiag System Information:

Operating System: Windows 7 Enterprise 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.120503-2030)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
System Model: Precision WorkStation T5500
BIOS: Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A09
Processor: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X5690 @ 3.47GHz (12 CPUs), ~3.5GHz
System Memory: 12288MB RAM
Page File: 3974MB used, 20594MB available
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514

DxDiag Graphics Device Information:
DirectX Version: 10.0
DDI Version: 11
DDI Version Number: b
DxDiag WHQL Level: 0
Driver Signed Valid: True
Driver Signed: True
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip Type: Quadro 5000
DAC Type: Integrated RAMDAC
Revision:
Graphics HW Memory: 218 MB
Display Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Graphics driver file: nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um
Driver file version: 8.17.0012.7589
Driver Date: 8/5/2011 21:52:00
WHQL Level: 1
Inventor Options Information:
Options = 0x00000000
Warning Options = 0x00000000
Graphics driver log information:

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Have you tried a new mouse? Sounds very odd.

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Yup! Using a PerformanceMX top of the line Logitech wireless and changed from a Logitech M705. Acts same way.

Saw some posts saying to switch to a Microsoft mouse instead but I don't see that changing things and I'm kind of picky 'bout mice

Just pulled the M705 out of the drawer, linked it up and tried the same thing. If I start a new part, draw a rectangle, then try to draw a line from a corner point but move the mouse as soon as I click and every time it starts the arc drag and not a regular snapped line.

Second update... just threw a clincky old Dell USB wired mouse on my workstation and other then is being s-l-o-w it seems to do the same thing. Will play with the mouse settings and see what I can do.

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Okay, here's a test that hopefully someone else can do in Inventor 2013. Start a new part and while in sketch mode select 2-point rectangle. Go to some random point on the screen and left mouse click and as soon as possible after clicking the mouse (meaning just pop your finger down and up on the left mouse button) zip the mouse to some other location on the screen and tell us how close the drawn corner of the rectangle is to where you clicked. And I mean CLICK-RELEASE-MOVE all one flowing action. For me the corner of the rectgangle is often drawn several inches away from where I clicked.

Now open AutoCAD 2013, start the rectangle command and do the same thing. For me the corner of the rectangle is always exactly where I clicked. And I mean exactly. In Inventor it is NEVER where I clicked and often it draws the first rectangle corner point very close to where I moved my mouse pointer to AFTER clicking.

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Not the behavior I get.
Do you have access to another machine to see if you get the same behavior?

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Went to another workstation and we figured it out, NOT FIXED, just identified it.

In Inventor the CLICK occurs when your mouse button is RELEASED.
In AutoCAD the CLICK occuers when your mouse button is DEPRESSED.

That says WHAT is happening but WHY THR H3LL WOULD AUTODESK MAKE THE TWO APPLICATIONS NOT EVEN ACCEPT MOUSE CLICKS THE SAME WAY?

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Because the Inventor way is correct. It allows you to click but hold if you decided you did not want ot issue the command, move off the icon and release. The AutoCAD way is the old school way. Still, not sure why you are just now noticing this... it's been that way since day 1.

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It seems to work this way in any program for me (including MS Word). The pick is on mouse up, not mouse down.

Years ago I took an assembly language programing class were we had to program in delays for debouncing key presses.
If you watch an oscilloscope there is a lot of noise when you hit a key/mouse button. The problem is - what is the signal and what is the noise. I suspect this mouse up behavior in coding is related to this problem.

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