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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 12:20 pm 
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Is there an option/method to auto dimension all entities or select all and dimension in a SKETCH (not eng drawing) rather than have to create individual dimns?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:53 pm 
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Nop. Computer can't decide which element is critical and driven. Engineer/Designer is the only one knows.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 4:33 pm 
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When in a sketch:
Tools-> Dimensions-> Fully define Sketch.
I can't speak to how well or not well it works, I haven't really used it other then playing around with it when it was first added to teh software.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:06 pm 
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Pineapple wrote:
Nop. Computer can't decide which element is critical and driven. Engineer/Designer is the only one knows.


Well put. And therein lies the problem with any computer-automated dimensioning. Programs even as powerful as SW are still not much at decision making (where should this dimension go to make a clear dwg? -Leave this up to the program, and it just spits out every dimension that shouldn't even be shown, all over eachother.)


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:48 am 
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I think it worth considering the approach that Inventor takes (you can tell SW to copy if you like it). The AutoDim allows you to add constraints and / or dimensions. If you don't like ones it puts in, selectively delete them and put in the ones you think are better. It keeps track of ones it puts in so you can simply run the command again and have it remove them. This makes it really easy to "discover" where you thought you had constraints / dimensions and where they need to be for YOUR design intent. It is particularly useful for imported sketches, like whey you copy - paste them from AutoCAD. Simply Auto Dimension everything to tie it down then remove / add dimensions and constraints to make the changes you want. Perhaps SW works the same way, it is worth a look.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:37 am 
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Should have given the background for info. I'm coming into SW from ProE which auto dimensions and constrains/relations as you create your sketch.

Yes I strongly agree that the system does not know your design intent and many of the dimns may be innappropriate but it does give you a starting point and you can overide the significant dimns - the auto 'weak' dimns don't have to be deleted they simply dissappear.

From a work flow point of view (and not a biased point of view) the ProE functionality is quicker.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:52 pm 
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Now it make more sense. SW should create some constrains when you create sketch. Like vert, horiz, parallel and perp. There is a setting you can turn on and off. I usually keep it on.
There is another option to create dim when you sketch a line. This I don't like and always keep it off. I don't need dim on every line.
The work flow I use is sketch the shape I need first. Then add constrains and add dim last. I may add some driven dim to help check overall size or to help in equations.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:22 pm 
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Sounds like IV is definitely a little better, in this respect. But how about dimensions that have nothing to do with manufacturing, that SW spits out all over the drawing if you select Insert/Model Items? I'm talking about every measurement SW uses to produce extruded / revolved / Cut bosses, etc., that would mean nothing but confusion to the end reader (who'd only be interested in the dimensions of the finished features)? Including those dimensions on a dwg would be stupidity of the highest order, so I don't know why SW does this, except maybe for VERY simple shapes, wherein nothing too involved was done to arrive at the final shape.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:04 pm 
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Chris,

If you are going to use insert Model Items to get dimensions on your drawings you should look into the 'Mark dimension for Drawing" buton that is on the dimension box when you double click to edit a dimension. Yurning this on/off will allow you to control which dimensions will be imported into a drawing.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:58 pm 
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tbryant wrote:
Chris,

If you are going to use insert Model Items to get dimensions on your drawings you should look into the 'Mark dimension for Drawing" buton that is on the dimension box when you double click to edit a dimension. Yurning this on/off will allow you to control which dimensions will be imported into a drawing.

Todd



Yes, I know that, Todd. I'm not talking about dimensions that you put in yourself. I'm talking about the feature dimensions that you only see if you have Show Feature Dimensions checked for the Annotations folder in the tree. Those show up, as well, when you Insert Model Items in the drawing. This might work in some cases, but in a lot of cases, it would just cause confusion.
Let me give you a simple example: Say you're designing a doorknob in which the knob portion is, say, hexogonal, and the stem portion is cylindrical. Now let's say, for argument's sake, you can't simply start the cylindrical stem (an extruded boss) right at the base of the knob, but find it works better to start it 1/8" inside the knob portion. This stem must be 1/2" long, so you have to set the extrude command to 5/8", in order for 1/2" of it to be protruding. A drawing of this should show a 1/2" dimension to indicate the stem's length. If you let SW put in the dimenaion, it will show a 5/8" dimension, because all it knows is that that is what you told the extrusion command. Maybe it might also show the 1/8" dimension, I'm not sure, but even if it did, that would still be a stupid way to dimension the drawing for someone who has to make the part, right? Now, I'm not saying SW is stupid, just that it couldn't possibly know what the designer's intent was, in a case like this.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:23 am 
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Hello members!

I would like to introduce myself as CAD drafter and would like to get answers from forum members.

Looking forward to your kind support!

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Michael


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